Yuen method...

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Permalink Reply by John [Hootless Crew] on May 14, 2012 at 11:52am

It kind of depends on what you mean by power? If you have tried a few courses, such as SMaRT, with high hopes, and they have disappointed, I guess trying another is the triumph of hope over experience :-) But does depend on what you want to get out of the courses? Probably for most of us that is a moving target anyway.

 

American websites and marketing

In a sense it does not matter who points you to the truth. If a man were to offer you a used car, or guidance towards the truth, and he makes claims which are patently untrue and ludicrously self-inflating, and yet your heart were to say "this man nevertheless rings true as a person I can trust to sell me a car, or guide me into the truth", I would heartily say "follow your heart!" Funnily enough, and it is a point worth noting (and in this case I am not thinking of any particular living teacher, and certainly not commenting on Yuen method or Presence Process), there have been some teachers who saw the truth, and yet remained rather horrible or unscruplous people. The idea that the truth makes people good (or rich or healthy or happy) is just an idea. And yet sometimes it does all of those things.

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Permalink Reply by liiloo on May 14, 2012 at 7:52pm

Frank

Well , you need to make the descision  yourself, as many ppl are here as many point of views, depending purely what they want to believe. But the end reslt is only and only descision of yours.

I so like this little piece of text:  He asked Ramana, "This thing called moksha, can you give it to me?" – to which Ramana Maharshi purportedly replied, "I can give it, but can you take it?"

I think all the methods work in the best way , only ppl who use it and ppl whom those are used make difference.

Also yes, the marketing geared towards US marked is a bit over the top. Only way to for me to really go through that blingbling is by listening myself. If i still being drawn back to the method, even over the months or year / years ( what was the case with Lesters work ) . Then i know that thereś is something what i need to check out. Our bodies are tremendously wize ones ( due the energy ) so listen what that shell of yours is telling :)

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Permalink Reply by Frank S. Kristensen on May 14, 2012 at 10:29pm

Yes, off course any decision concerning my life is on my shoulders alone. However, asking for other people´s experience is 1) a way to enrich the body of knowledge on which to decide, and 2) a decision I made:)

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Permalink Reply by John [Hootless Crew] on May 15, 2012 at 5:27pm

But what do you want to achieve?

The Presence Process is avowedly about integrating emotion. It claims not to be a spiritual process. It works.

Yuen method's language is all about eliminating things which trouble us, eliminating pain and bringing financial success. I have not tried it.

SMaRT does not have a single website where you can go for central information, but my take is that more about seeing and welcoming things as they are, quite the opposite of the 'get rid of stuff you do not like.' Even accepting the things which, if one were honest about the limitations of all the 'powerful methods', cannot be fixed so easily or at all. Ultimately when you stop trying to fix things, as Lester said, life tends to be easier :-)

But these 'lower' techniques, be it emotional integration, energy healing, or mainstream medicine, are all OK in their place (though not without their dangers, and in a way the more effective something is at making your life great, or getting you credit with others, the more dangerous it can be because then we can get too attached to how good life can be, or what great powers we have). 

Maybe Yuen can help you be healthier and wealthier, though if I wanted to be wealthier I would work harder and smarter at business, and if I wanted to be healthier I would improve my diet and exercise. These are the methods with really massive, proven power. Yuen method must be assessed for what it claims to be, a tool to make you healthier, wealthier, and pain-free instantly. 

I am reminded, with all methods, of the Adyashanti video I think linked on this site, where he says, 'All ways do NOT lead to God. Actually, all ways lead away from God.' But that does not mean there is anything wrong with conventional medicine, with business, or with a method which promises instant 'correction' of everything you do not like, provided their limited but valid aims are kept in perspective .

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Permalink Reply by Frank S. Kristensen on May 16, 2012 at 1:46pm

What I want to achieve is two-fold; for my own part I´d love to have an effortless life in all areas, that´s why I started releasing years ago. After "taking it for checking" for 5 ys., I was finally smart enough to move on. Never regretted it either.

I´m also a professionel, teaching, seeing clients 1-on-1, and in that regard I do feel somewhat obligated to keep searching for power tools, and refining the ones that I have.

I´m don´t really consider myself a spiritual person, rather just a guy who wants a rich, love- and funfilled life in an effortless way:)

Cheers...iFrank

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Permalink Reply by Frank S. Kristensen on May 16, 2012 at 10:37pm

Oh, and BTW I think that Larry Crane´s take on SMaRT is very much about eliminating emotions, beliefs and "programs". There´s a line of thought who thinks that as we eliminate the "bad" stuff, the underlying "pure essence" shines through. Actually, it strikes me that letting go the SMaRT-way - especially when it comes to goals - is very much holding on. 

As a matter of fact, I´ll just play around with everything for a while, regardless if someone thinks it´s programming, instilling, installing or whatever. How would I know if Hale, Larry or even Lester has any truth to their claims? I´d be willing to take it on for checking, experimenting, but not just blindly follow a dead man, whether he has been dead for 20 or 2000 years.

Cheers...iFrank

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