Hypnosis and SMART?

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Permalink Reply by Hootless.Com on February 11, 2012 at 1:26am

Great question Albert. You are sure to get some different points of view on this one ....

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Permalink Reply by Omer Gilad on February 11, 2012 at 8:35pm

Hi Albert,

I don't want to impose anything, you'd rather take things for the checking and have your own knowing.

With that said, I will ask you a simple question:

Would you rather be a very effective, positive, happy and loving robot, or would you rather be a free being?

What I mean by that, is that hypnosis (and for that matter, NLP\affirmations\all this other stuff), no matter how effective it might be, is still programming yourself.

It might get you goals, it might even put good feelings inside your awareness, but it won't set you free.

It won't give you true wisdom, and it won't get you any closer to truth.

It won't give you additional discrimination, but would rather replace the negative blindness with positive blindness.

And as far as I know, it is much more expensive and much more complicated than simply releasing all your limitations and realizing your naturally positive self.

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Permalink Reply by Albert on February 12, 2012 at 1:03pm

Thanks for the replies everyone :) (Lisa is that you? Been a while since I was on here so I'm not sure heh)

Omer - that is a brilliant answer. I think on some level I know that's the conflict. To be honest, I don't know. On some level I think I want to get my goals, even if it means being a robot. On the other hand I am also cringing at the thought of installing more "stuff" inside me. I think I'll take your advice, and just take it for checking. I might do it a little bit and see how it goes. Thanks again.

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Permalink Reply by Omer Gilad on February 13, 2012 at 12:58am

1. You don't even have to do it.

Releasing on it to the point of having an intuitive insight should be enough.

But you can also do it if that's what you choose.

2. Do you have some belief that if you go towards freedom you won't get your goals?

That's absurd when you examine it. By releasing, you remove your self imposed limitations towards your goals. So why not?

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Permalink Reply by Albert on February 13, 2012 at 1:47pm

Hmm... that's a good point. When I checked within, my answer was - if I am hootless I won't even bother to go get my goals, so I only want to be hootless after I've had my fun. Good stuff Omer, thanks.

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Permalink Reply by Omer Gilad on February 14, 2012 at 1:22pm

Right, that's the ego bullshiting you.

It will always tell you that negative stuff will happen if you release - which is always the opposite with no exception. It is like letting a cat guard your cake.

When you get free you can do whatever you want. When you're not free, you are controlled by subconscious thoughts and you have no choice. What's wrong about being free?

You may or may not go to have your goal - that's completely up to you - as opposed to being up to a messed up computer filled with conflicting thoughts.

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Permalink Reply by Lisa [Hootless Crew] on February 14, 2012 at 3:26pm

Hey Albert. We put forward the question/similar you asked to James Hurley on Sundays call. He is well qualified in the area of Hypnosis and it was interesting what he had to say. I think it is within the first hour of the call....it is up on the home page to listen to. Hope it throws more light on it for you...

There is far more to this than it at first appears to be :)

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Permalink Reply by Albert on February 15, 2012 at 7:58am

Thanks Lisa and Omer, very much appreciated :) Lots of think about, and I'm downloading the support call right now.

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Permalink Reply by liiloo on February 18, 2012 at 10:10am

Omer:

" if you go towards freedom you won't get your goals? "

that was it!!!

If i m free i am that oneness or awareness ( whatever ppl call the one ) i have no need or desire or having nothing. This isthe trick  :)

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Permalink Reply by Omer Gilad on February 19, 2012 at 5:03am

When you're free, you're free.

The ego likes to impose various concepts or limitations on freedom, but that's all nonsense, because freedom is the absence of all limitations.

When you're free you can do whatever you want, including what you've done before - you can even suffer, play in AGFLAP, be an ego, etc. - but you can always stop when you get tired of it.

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Permalink Reply by Evan on February 21, 2012 at 4:22pm

Amen brother. 

Lester talked about isolating himself for 10 years - he also made a few million and started doing teachings and workshops for releasing. Both were what arose and he was free to go with either 100% - no judgements about one being too "goal-y" and one being too lazy. 

I'd suggest releasing and probing into the idea that getting all your goals will make you happy- NOT saying go in there trying to prove that they won't, just keep open and genuinely inquire.

Then do the same thing about the idea that freedom means you never have a drive to create things or act in the world.

What one might call "desire" is a natural arising and the first part of the creation of anything, and it is totally neutral with no inherent straining in it, it's we are just not free around it. There does not have to be pain in the birth of an idea and the natural unfolding of it, which seems to have happened with the development of this technique- it's not really "you" doing it any way. If a melody comes into my head, I didn't "do" that and writing it down etc can all unfold naturally.  You're just free to roll with it and let it all unfold. This creative energy would not disappear anymore than thinking that if you were totally free, all clouds would disappear, all trees would disappear, etc. 

I absolutely love this video - it hits the heart of questions like this. "What if I never get my goals?" - "what if it means I end up sitting alone for years like Lester or Eckhart Tolle did?," "what about my kids" - etc. The answer is how badly do you want to find out? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNSXAViW0Bw&feature=relmfu

My take on hypnosis is that if you are not going to dive all in, if you're going to still operate from this space then you might as well run from happy programs, and it's a beautiful thing to have a skill to do that for so many people who are completely not open to this idea of total freedom. Also if you have something that disturbs you so much like deep phobias that shock your nervous system so badly that you can't function to even go into your own release/inquiry it could be very valuable. If you are in the state to do it though I would dive in to questioning it from where you are at and release around it, before going into a suggestive state so new beliefs can be more easily installed.

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Permalink Reply by Frank S. Kristensen on February 29, 2012 at 11:24pm

I may not be the best one answering this, as I stopped releasing a while ago, which just means that I´m in no way SMaRT-"religious". And I have worked with hypnosis for more than 25 years.

However...thinking that hypnosis is only the suggestion therapy/programming, that was known up until fifty years ago is...well...quite an outdated mindset. There are still practitioners of hypnosis, that works that way, but in the last decades there has been a growing tendency to work with the notion of allowing, choice and flexibility. 

It seems to me that the way some SMaRT-teachers think of the unconscious is VERY Freudian (I did NOT say Larry)! Most practitioners of hypnosis today, leans way more towards how Dr. Milton Erickson saw the unconscious - as a great storehouse of potential, resources, wisdom and being rather "streetsmart". Not as something that has to be combatted. Actually and along the same lines, the notion of ego seems to be misleading as well, as Freud intended the word to mean what the "I" means to releasers. And as such - not something to be combatted.

When I listened to Hale, it was quite obvious that his intonation, way of incorporating the senses, whatever is observable in immediate surroundings, etc.....is straight Ericksonian/NLP-style hypnotic induction, though rather poorly delivered.

Allowing trance to unfold IS releasing!

Just my 2 cents:)

Cheers...iFrank

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