Virgina Lloyd and the origin of the Sedona Method

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Permalink Reply by Evan on February 23, 2012 at 8:50pm

I have always been very curious as to how he went from that point into having the actual method. Anyone know how?

My guess, and it's just a guess, that would be the source of whatever divide was there. 

I think of the method as the result of finding the most clear and direct way at the time to reverse-engineer Lester's experience in the way that would be easiest to communicate and work as effectively for people as possible. 

What's great is you have access to the source - a fair amount of words and recordings from the originator and that is the logical and sort of inevitable place you will go to. 

Like all things even a method will need to be let go of - my guess is this is why Lester always talked about the end-game and pointed you there. 

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Permalink Reply by Jordan on February 24, 2012 at 7:10am

There was a book by Larry Crane which talks about how Lester came up with his method. He changed his feelings to love(let go of wanting approval), he let go of trying to change things(control), and his fear of dying(security) as he was told he would die at that time. That was the basis for the method, and he read a lot of books on spirituality to understand what had happened to him, which is why he advocated using releasing and Who am I/non-duality teachings to get there faster. He spoke of realizations that people could put into practice that he discovered as Truth, and I found a rare book that the newer version had cut out where he talks of meditation quite highly.

Back to the topic - I have always wondered what happened. A lot of drama it seems. Larry and Hale seemed to just go off and do their thing, and they must have both had rights to the method. Virginia helped Lester develop the method but also brought out her own book.

Something extra to add is Patricia Carrington, who had studied with the Sedona Method a long time ago, not sure if it was with Lester when he owned the old Sedona course or if he was in charge at the time, but she brought out a book later(a very good one btw) about releasing. I heard as soon as it was brought out/just before, Hale tried to sue her! She mentions Lester in it, and she gives credit to him and releasing isn't something he could keep to himself through any legal action so she was allowed to bring it out, she even mentions in the book "Sedona Training Associates also calls the results the Sedona Method 'releasing'." I don't think anyone can own releasing just like no one can own spiritual teachings.

Lester never wanted any of that to happen, he just wanted the method to reach as many people as possible.

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Permalink Reply by liiloo on February 24, 2012 at 9:07pm

I went to google and searched about Patricia and well her book as i understand is relationship issues related . Also she sems to do EFT as another modality and also supporting tehe meditation. According to her website , she has this themed work represented more than Releasing related things.

Well i read the book right now, well see. 

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Permalink Reply by Jordan on February 24, 2012 at 9:26pm

Oh she's moved to teaching EFT over the last few years. I think the lawsuit might have put her off!

The book in question is called 'The power of letting go'. It deals with all issues. She has a slightly different take on the wording and releasing questions compared to the others.

The book is good, but I just checked and it's £94 on Amazon! If anyone wants to get it don't get it from there, shop around online it should be a normal price.

Here's the releasing questions, which of course are just one part of it but I'll post them nonetheless.

From the Power of Letting Go, Patricia Carrington Ph.D,:


What did I want to change? Could I let go of wanting to change that?

It would be great if ..... changed, but could I let go of *wanting* to change that?

Could I let go of wanting to change that ..... is happening?

Could I let go of wanting to rewrite the past?

When you find it hard to release it all ask : Could I let go of just 1 percent of wanting to change(that situation)?

Could I let go of just 1 percent of wanting to change that and hold on to the rest?

Could I accept 1 percent of....?

Could I let go - for only a few seconds - of wanting to change this(situation)?

Could I let go of just this part of wanting to change this....(person, place, feeling,etc)?

Could I let go of wanting to change (a tiny part) of this?

Can I increase the wanting to change (the situation, feeling), more, and more?

I won't let myself release this.

Could I let go of wanting to change it and just let it be, without acting on it?

Could I hold on to this feeling, hold it and focus on it, and keep it?

Could I let go of wanting to control this situation?

Can I accept the loss of his/her/my approval?

Could I let go of wanting to control his/her/my approval?

Coudl I let go of wanting my own approval?

Could I let go of wanting to control my own approval?

Does this situation have to do with approval or control?(let it go)

Could I give myself a lot of approval - right now?

Could I let go for if only 5 seconds of wanting approval?

Could I let go of wanting to change that person?

Could I let go of wanting to control that person?

Could I let go of wanting to protect myself(the feeling of wanting to hide, be rude, run away, hostile, etc)

Could I let go of (person, company, etc) to be fair?

Could I let go of wanting to change my - body, my fun, my excitement, my feelings?

Could I let go of struggling to change it, could I let it 'be' for just a while?

Could I let go of wanting to understand?

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Permalink Reply by Marco on February 29, 2012 at 1:54am

John -

Just curious - since you mention Nikki Warriner - do you know if she still teaches the method? I saw her (and Hale) in one of the old tapes that showed the SM and thought she was a pretty good teacher. She might be a good candidate for the conference calls...

John [Hootless Crew] said:

Very much a non-dual teacher. You might add several other recordings to the ones you name, including Ralph Zeitlin and Rick Solomon. And I notice that Rick posted a lot of Mooji videos on his site, a teacher who is more obviously in the non-dual tradition than releasing is (where the marketing can make this less obvious until you get in deeper).

Lester seems never to have taught releasing directly but it was taught under his supervision. Recordings of Lester are worth listening to, there are videos here of course and others on audio available. Some people also still have copies of the early videoed releasing course by Hale and Niki Warriner. Lester is not in it, AFAIK, but it was from his time. Probably Larry teaching is not that different, though the image of the tube in chest and so on seem to be unique to him. Hale has of course developed the teaching with additional techniques which some find useful but are not from Lester's time.

The recording linked above with Jeannie and Virginia was not hugely illuminating in my own opinion. It is clear the Viriginia Lloyd played a significant part in developing and spreading the method, though quite who gets credit for what depends on who you listen to. As for the bankruptcy, it was in retrospect maybe no bad thing that Sedona Method / Release Technique was not controlled by a single official body. Some Sedona insiders joined the unpaid creditors in suing the institute, others sided with the defence. Those who felt that supporting the creditors was the right thing to do may occasionally feel they would like to explain their reasons. Fragments of information come out. But on the whole both sides are loyal to the principle of 'omerta.'

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Permalink Reply by Brian Atkins on November 20, 2012 at 8:17pm

It looks like this audio is no longer available. Does anyone know what Virginia said regarding the lawsuit?

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Permalink Reply by Lisa [Hootless Crew] on November 20, 2012 at 8:35pm

Now this is interesting. I have been asked this question by someone else today too. Why the sudden interest may I ask? :)

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Permalink Reply by Brian Atkins on November 20, 2012 at 9:15pm

I just came across this post and noticed that Virginia had spoken about a Lawsuit involving the Sedona Institute on the linked webcast. I am just curious to know who was being sued, by whom and for what.

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Permalink Reply by Lisa [Hootless Crew] on November 20, 2012 at 10:22pm

Yes it is a cyclical topic that gets curiosity from time to time. We don't know of course if Virginia spoke out extensively about this. Doubt that very much actually. Maybe have a look at Jeannies site and search to see if the webcast is available elsewhere? Let us know if you find it! :)

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