Virgina Lloyd and the origin of the Sedona Method

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Permalink Reply by Lisa [Hootless Crew] on July 15, 2008 at 6:46am

This topic continues to interest me. I have listened to all the webcasts and in my opinion this one here is essential listening for all releasers who want to know the facts. Virginia seems to be a true inspiration - she seems both humble and knowledgeable, and as it is obvious she was closely linked to Lester and the start of all of releasing. I have the following doubt now, and would like to know what others think on this?

What does not sit well with me is JF sadly, as firstly in these calls she seems to just go on and on about herself too much (what she has done etc etc oh what an ego after a supposed 28 years of this work!!!) I do object to the fact that those of us that might want to attend one of Virginias original courses, cannot do so unless we attend one of JF's first?. That is not freedom - that is control surely? Is this because Virginia has given up her licencing rights to JF to get back into the game?

I honestly think this approach is a no option forced approach and makes me ask the question "Who is carrying who here"?

I know this question may offend some but, I feel compelled to ask this. Also whilst JF speaks alot of great stuff, I would like to know why she continually says that Hale has altered the original teachings of the method. All things evolve and can in so doing get better and this in not necessarily a bad thing. I do feel that the putting down of other teachers ( Especially those that trained you and set you on the ladder to where you are today ) and the up to date methods they choose to use is counter productive, something we never ever hear Hale doing. I wonder why is it perhaps he doesn't have to?

It is the oldest trick in the book after all to put others down to make yourself look good. That in itself on such a spiritual approach as the method does not resonate well with me.

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Permalink Reply by Per [Hootless crew] on July 15, 2008 at 1:44pm

I noticed that some of the earlier posts here were deleted by their author, so that's why it might seem confusing..

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Permalink Reply by Lisa [Hootless Crew] on July 15, 2008 at 5:44pm

Ahhh that could have been me DJ as I made some errors and needed to correct them and didn't realise I could edit without deleting and re-posting.

I agree that Hale is fine with JF - but then Hale is very accepting of all I find. What I meant is that JF in that webcast that you have up there at the top of this post very subtly comments that Hale has changed some things. It is done very carefully as if to say her way is better. Now then, her talks are live so I hope she doesn't really feel that way.

But I am being brutally honest here as she is in that cast I just got fed up of hearing what she had done, and how good she is at this and that.....to resonate with me for releasing I have to like the voice and feel that it calms me in some way. Sadly her voice does the opposite....LOL now that may be a good or bad thing I do not know!!!

hmmmm I saw that someone else we know did in fact have a 'burning question' answered - and not answered very well I might add. I may just do that and ask why. Freedom is freedom and that should include the freedom to go to whoevers seminars or intensives that we want to.

I particularly enjoy listening to Virginias voice - I like her attitude and her approach and the honesty that she declared in that recording. I think it has settled alot of mis-information that was around about that law suit, as she gave the facts to back it up.

I am pleased she has decided to teach again - but I feel that JF is just on an approval and money making kick at Virginias expense - I hope to god I am wrong.

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Permalink Reply by Lisa [Hootless Crew] on July 16, 2008 at 5:33am

Hey DJ hun I was sorry to come back and see all of that on the other site! You handled the situation very graciously in my opinion and there was no need for many a comment.

I am very sorry I wasn't around to speak up as you know me - I would have done exactly that, but I think the thread spoke for itself really........

Lets hope you got some releasing opportunity from it anyway...:)

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Permalink Reply by Lisa [Hootless Crew] on July 16, 2008 at 1:31pm

Oh I was up again at some crazy hour.....and listen to me you...(he he he - gonna control you for a moment) we love ya thats why people looked your way on this. Nobody likes to see anyone attack another even if it does us some good in the end in terms of releasing.

If it wasn't for you some of us (including me) wouldn't have even found the forum or in so doing the releasing calls - that is down to you alot for fishing some of us out of Face Book LOL.

Its wonderful to be part of the 'inner ring of light' so to speak in which some of us are close enough to release together and inspire one another.

Yesterday, for example I had a huge emotional throw up - there is no other way to explain it as it came like a bolt from the blue... and the others were there for me, to help me understand and guide me through to letting it all out and not letting any back in which I might have done had it not been for them being there.

If that is not showing me love I don't know what is - its a miraculous gain for me to know you all and that includes you Per. I am extremely grateful that you messaged me that day, as if you hadn't I wouldn't have all these wonderful people walk into my life.

That Per is entirely down to you for inspiring me enough to take another look.

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Permalink Reply by Per [Hootless crew] on July 16, 2008 at 3:55pm

I'm very grateful for having met you all, and having your support, and I'm glad that you feel that way too, and that the others are there for you. This is the best group of people that I know of. So thanks again :)

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Permalink Reply by Per [Hootless crew] on July 18, 2008 at 1:39pm

Watching paint dry is one of my favorite ways of releasing ;)

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Permalink Reply by Andrew Vasa on July 18, 2008 at 4:10pm

If paint could allow itself to be the observer instead of the "dryer" it could watch itself dry. ;)

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Permalink Reply by Per [Hootless crew] on July 18, 2008 at 4:20pm

Profound insight!

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Permalink Reply by Lisa [Hootless Crew] on July 25, 2008 at 1:24am

hmmm I know how that feels, I listened to the whole thing as one cannot forward wind her teleseminars. I was itching to hear Virginia speak LOL

*Note to self to stop disapproving of JF* LOL

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Permalink Reply by Marco on January 31, 2012 at 5:54pm

I am probably a few years late with this question.... The webcast listed with the interview to Virginia Lloyd is no longer accessible through that link. Does anyone know where to find it? Thanks!

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Permalink Reply by Lisa [Hootless Crew] on January 31, 2012 at 7:12pm

Hey Marco - wow this is an old thread!

Jeannie F is currently planning for some new things apparently, she is in Arizona now and planning a book and seminar - so that might be why things have been moved on her site.
www.Awakenedheart.com is her site now, but it flips over back to heartwisdomseminars.

You might have to dig around on there to see if things have been moved somewhere else. If it is the course you are after then it was called "Master Your Emotions". That was an audio course so might very well be available still. Good luck - let us know if you find it!

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